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NASA Advisory Council Meeting Minutes 10-11 Sep 2002 – Part 4

By SpaceRef Editor
September 25, 2002
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Committee Discussion

The NAC discussed the design of the next meeting. Dr. Kennel noted that there should not be any fifteen-minute agenda items. In addition, there will be discussion time budgeted after every item. Dr. Trimble urged that items be restricted to those that have substantive information that the NAC can deal with. Dr. Kennel encouraged the presenters to come in with a small number of questions that the NAC could help with. The next meeting will extend until at least 2:30 p.m. on the second day and will be in Washington, DC, December 5-6. The agenda will have a smaller number of items and one or two foci. Dr. Kennel suggested that the two foci be: ISS, with a dual emphasis: (1) the degree to which the five point reforms have been accomplished, and (2) the question-driven science program-the questions themselves and the degree to which they fit into a larger communications strategy and the other goals of the Space Station; and Aeronautics (a broad review in which the Enterprise itself surfaces a couple of questions that it would like the NAC to pursue). With respect to the latter, Dr. Noonan suggested including the perspective of the external (FAA) or aeronautics community as well as that of NASA. Gen. Hoover suggested hearing about the relationship of NASA to the air transportation management system. Dr. Kennel indicated that the NAC would also include on the agenda the item on strategic planning and budget/performance integration that was deferred from this meeting. He invited members to submit other topics for future meetings. Dr. Noonan suggested an informative and inspirational science talk, perhaps during a “working” lunch, at future meetings. Dr. Kennel noted that Mr. O’Keefe had suggested stimulating dinner talks from the NAC. He offered to go first and talk about global climate change.

Dr. Baldwin commented that the BPRAC had submitted some formal recommendations and asked that they be incorporated into the letter, as appropriate, and appended to the NAC report.

Plans for future meetings:

  • December 11-12 at NASA HQ
  • March 4-5 at Stennis Space Center
  • June 10-11, Washington, DC area (either NASA HQ or GSFC)
  • September 9-10 at ARC
  • December 3-4, Washington, DC
  • NASA Advisory Council (NAC) Meeting

NASA Jet Propulsion Laboratory Bldg. 180, Room 101 Pasadena, CA Agenda September 10 – 11, 2002

Tuesday, September 10

  • 8:00 – 8:05 Welcoming Remarks Charles ElachiDirector, JPL
  • 8:05 – 8:15 Opening Remarks Charles Kennel NAC Chair – Research Maximization and Prioritization (ReMaP)
  • 8:15 – 8:45 Opening Remarks (via videoconference) Sean O’Keefe NASA Admministrator
  • 8:45 – 9:00 ISS Research Status Neal Pellis
  • 9:00 – 9:45 Response to the ReMaP – Next Steps Mary Kicza Office of Biological & Physical Research
  • 9:45 – 10:15 Council Discussion
  • 10:15 – 10:45 Break
  • 10:45 – 11:00 NASA’s Integrated ISS Utilization Shannon Lucid
  • 11:00 – 11:30 Response to Research Requirements William Gerstenmaier
  • 11:30 – 12:15 Council Discussion
  • 12:15 – 1:15 Lunch
  • 1:15 – 1:45 Overview of JPL Activities Charles Elachi
  • 1:45 – 2:10 Mars Program Firouz Naderi
  • 2:10 – 2:30 Mars Program Assessment & Future Planning Orlando Figueroa
  • 2:30 – 2:45 Council Discussion
  • 2:45 – 3:00 Break
  • 3:00 – 4:00 Tour of Mars 03 Rover Assembly Chris Jones
  • 4:00 – 5:15 Administrative Session a) ReMaP
  • 7:15 DINNER

Wednesday, September 11

  • 8:00 – 8:15 Opening Remarks Charles Kennel NASA and Commercial Innovation
  • 8:15 – 9:00 Market-Driven Commercial Research Mark Uhran
  • 9:00 – 9:15 Council Discussion
  • 9:15 – 9:30 Innovation Catalyst (via videoconference) Scott Pace
  • 9:30 – 9:45 Council Discussion
  • 9:45 – 10:15 Break
  • 10:15 – 10:45 Education Initiative (via videoconference) Paul Pastorek
  • 10:45 – 11:00 JPL Students Imagine Mars Project Parvin Kassaie
  • 11:00 – 11:15 Council Discussion
  • 11:15 – 11:30 Strategic Planning and Budget/ Doug Comstock Performance Integration
  • 11:30 – 12:00 Committee Reports Committee Chairs
  • 11:45 – 12:15 Council Discussion
  • 12:15 – 12:45 Summary and Conclusions Charles Kennel

NAC Membership September 2002

  • Dr. Charles F. Kennel (Chair), Director and Vice Chancellor of Marine Sciences, Scripps Institution of Oceanography
  • Dr. Kenneth M. Baldwin, Department of Physiology & Biophysics, University of California, Irvine
  • Mr. David J. Berteau, Syracuse University
  • Dr. Rafael L. Bras, Professor, Department of Civil and Environmental Engineering, Massachusetts Institute of Technology
  • Dr. Andrew B. Christensen, NOAA c/o EUMESTAT
  • Dr. Edward F. Crawley, Professor and Co-Director, Systems, Massachusetts Institute of Technology
  • Mr. Richard Danzig, National Semiconductor Corporation
  • Dr. Freeman J. Dyson, Institute for Advance Study
  • Dr. Richard E. Ewing, Texas A&M University
  • Gen. Ronald R. Fogleman (Ret.), President, Durango Aerospace, Inc.
  • Dr. Donald C. Fraser, Boston University
  • The Honorable John Glenn, Ohio State University
  • Dr. Daniel Hastings, Co-Director, Technology & Policy Programs, Massachusetts Institute of Technology
  • Gen. William W. Hoover, USAF (Ret.) , (Ex-Officio Member), Chairman, Aeronautics and Space Engineering Board, National Research Council
  • Mr. Fred Israel, Attorney, Israel & Raley, P.C. (Ret.)
  • Dr. John Logsdon, Director, Space Policy Institute & Center for International Science, George Washington University
  • Mr. Mark McDaniel, Attorney, McDaniel and McDaniel Attorneys, LLC
  • Dr. John H. McElroy (Ex-Officio Member), Chair, NRC Space Studies Board
  • Rev. John P. Minogue, C.M., President, DePaul University
  • Dr. Harold Mortazavian, University of California
  • Dr. Norine E. Noonan, College of Charleston
  • Dr. Larry Smarr, University of California, San Diego
  • Mr. David O. Swain, Senior Vice President, Engineering & Technology, The Boeing Company
  • Mr. Roger E. Tetrault, McDermott International, Inc. (Ret.)
  • Mr. Charles R. Trimble, Trimble Navigation Limited (Ret.)
  • Mr. Knox W. Tull, Jr., Jackson & Tull
  • Mr. Byron Wood, The Boeing Company
  • Mr. A. Thomas Young, Vice President (Ret.), Lockheed Martin
  • Dr. Laurie Zoloth, San Francisco State University

  • Mr. J. Donald Miller (Executive Secretary) National Aeronautics and Space Administration
  • Ms. Kathy Dakon (Administrative Officer) National Aeronautics and Space Administration


Council Members:

  • Kennel, Charles F. (Chair) Scripps Institution of Oceanography
  • Baldwin, Kenneth M. University of California
  • Berteau, David J. Syracuse University
  • Christensen, Andrew B. NOAA
  • Dyson, Freeman Institute for Advance Study
  • Ewing, Richard E. Texas A&M University
  • Fraser, Donald C. Boston University
  • Glenn, John H. Ohio State University
  • Hoover, William W. (Ex-Officio Member) ASEB, NRC
  • Logsdon, John George Washington University
  • McDaniel, Mark McDaniel & McDaniel Attorneys, LLC
  • McElroy, John H. (Ex-Officio Member) Space Studies Board, NRC
  • Miller, J. Donald (Executive Secretary) NASA Headquarters
  • Minogue, John P. DePaul University
  • Mortazavian, Harold University of California
  • Noonan, Norine College of Charleston
  • Swain, David O. The Boeing Company
  • Tetrault, Roger E. McDermott International, Inc. (Ret.)
  • Trimble, Charles Trimble Navigation Ltd. (Ret.)
  • Tull, Knox Jackson & Tull
  • Wood, Byron The Boeing Company
  • Zoloth, Laurie San Francisco State University

NASA Attendees:

  • Ahlf, Peter NASA Headquarters
  • Bartoe, John NASA/JSC
  • Buzzard, Frank NASA Headquarters
  • Dakon, Kathy NASA Headquarters
  • Donahue, Amy NASA Headquarters
  • Elachi, Charles NASA/JPL
  • Figueroa, Orlando NASA Headquarters
  • Fleuring, Kent NASA/JPL
  • Gardner, Rebecca NASA Headquarters
  • Gerstenmaier, William NASA/JSC
  • Gregory, Fred NASA Headquarters
  • Gregory, Mary NASA Headquarters
  • Guerra, Lisa NASA Headquarters
  • Hilding, Suzanne NASA Headquarters
  • Hubbard, G. Scott NASA Headquarters
  • Jones, Chris NASA/JPL
  • Kassaie, Parvin NASA/JPL
  • Kastolnik, Mike NASA Headquarters
  • Kicza, Mary NASA Headquarters
  • Klipstein, William NASA/JPL
  • Lucid, Shannon NASA Headquarters
  • Naderi, Firouz NASA/JPL
  • Pellis, Neal R. NASA Headquarters
  • Ross, Howard NASA Headquarters
  • Rummel, John D. NASA Headquarters
  • Taylor, Alotta NASA Headquarters
  • Uhran, Mark NASA Headquarters

Other Attendees:

  • Aldrin, Buzz Comm. On Future of AeroSpace Industry
  • Bauer, David TRW
  • Friedman, Louis The Planetary Society
  • Koyamu, Masato NASDA
  • Lawler, Andrew Science Magazine
  • Magnersen, Steve Space News
  • Moomaw, Bruce Space Daily
  • Nado, Kathy Jackson & Tull
  • Pings, Cornelius [not affiliated]
  • Pryke, Ian ESA
  • Purdy, William Ball Aerospace
  • Roldness, Dave Lockheed Martin
  • Sherwood, Brent Boeing NASA Systems
  • Smistad, Ole Raytheon
  • Spires, Shelby The Houston Times
  • Tomajan, Don Lockheed Martin


  • [insert letter(s) from Dr. Kennel to Mr. O’Keefe here]


Now online at

  1. ISS Research – Office of Biological and Physical Research [Pellis]
  2. OBPR Response to ReMaP – Next Steps [Kicza]
  3. NASA’s Integrated ISS Utilization [Lucid]
  4. Response to Research Requirements [Gerstenmaier]
  5. Exploration Challenges [Elachi]
  6. Mars Program Overview [Naderi, Figueroa, Jones]
  7. Commercial Space Center (CSC) Space Product Development Program and International Space Station Commercial Development Preparations [Uhran]
  8. Status of the NASA Education Office Initiative [Pastorek]
  9. Education and Outreach – Mars Student Imaging Project

Other material distributed at the meeting:

  1. Letter from Kennel to O’Keefe, September 6, 2002
  2. REMAP Appendix A: Ethical Issues in the Prioritization of NASA’s Science Mission, L. Zoloth, July 27, 2002
  3. The International Space Station: Mission and Meaning in a Time of Challenge, National Advisory Council, December 5th, 2001
  4. Report by the NASA Biological and Physical Research Research Maximization and Prioritization (ReMAP) Task Force to the NASA Advisory Council, August 2002
  5. BPRAC Findings and Recommendations to the NAC

SpaceRef staff editor.